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By: abdulHAQ

abdulHAQ — Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:22:48 +0000

As’salamu alaikum WRB,

While reading this discussion, I was using google earth to get information about some remote locations in the empty corridor of Saudi Arabia. One of the explanation of Najd given is of that an elevated land / location. google earth give information about the Lat Long and also elevation. The following is the data I collected:

Madina Al-Munawara : 1992ft Elevation
Iraq : 363 ft Elevation (Its where the country name comes), Baghdad : 384ft Elevation, Kufa: 173 ft Elevation
Basra: 90ft Elevation

Buraydah : 2458 ft Elevation, Riyadh : 2637ft Elevation etc

If the ruler is used to draw a line toward east of Madina and noting the elevation, it Will be seen that elevation reaches upto 3000 ft & more.

So with the definition of Najd a high land etc, Iraq does not qualify for it unless severe land erosion has taken place and changes took place in the layers of earth to make it lower than Madina now.

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By: Irfan

Irfan — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:10:01 +0000

if iraaq was not considered as part of najd ,then why would the narrators of hadith narrate najd as iraaq as found in the hadith “bless our najd”.
does anyone have answers for it?

By: Irfan

Irfan — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:04:33 +0000

if najd was not considered as part iraq ,then why would the narrators of hadith narrate najd as iraa

By: Irfan

Irfan — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:38:18 +0000

sorry mistake in what i wrote above.

what i meant is that wont sothern part of todays iraq be also part of najd ?
and wasnt prophet SAW refering to najd as a whole in the hadith and after forseeing all the fitnah that would rise from the east.

By: Irfan

Irfan — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:30:24 +0000

so even southern part of najd is problematic.
and the hadith refers to the whole of najd including one in saudi and southern iraq right?

here are some 16th & 17 th century maps:

http://www.bergbook.com/htdocs/Cache325.htm

By: Abul Layth

Abul Layth — Fri, 27 Jun 2008 02:39:24 +0000

If you think that the ‘Iraq of today is equivalent to the ‘iraq of yesteryear, then you are mistaken. The borders currently were drawn by the brits and their expansionist imperialistic generals.

By: Irfan

Irfan — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:51:45 +0000

there are hadiths which show that the sign of deviants is that they shave their heads.
i have read some refutations were they say that this sign was evident in ibn abdul wahab.
does anyone have any direct reference to show that ibn abdul wahab practised it and propogated the shaving of heads.

By: irfan

irfan — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:17:20 +0000

how can we say that the hadith about bless our najd can only be refering to najd in saudi .

what i understood after reading shaykh gf haddad’s article;

( http://www.livingislam.org/mshsh_e.html )

was that iraq is also included when we say najd.

By: Ibn Ahmad

Ibn Ahmad — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:16:37 +0000

I don’t have an opinion in this matter anymore. It doesn’t interest me that much. Nevertheless, here’s a good read regarding the topic.

http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/najd.htm