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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abu Layth, do all 4 madhabs say that it is an obligation to cover the face?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu Layth, do all 4 madhabs say that it is an obligation to cover the face?</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/167#comment-1228</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 06:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wa alaykum as salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

If you quote, quote honestly.  The article also states a mere sentence later:

&quot;However, as mentioned above, the Shafi’i and Hanbali schools hold that it is from the rules of normal public decorum, affirmed by Qur’anic degree, that a woman covers her face in public.&quot;

Saying the face is awrah is different from saying that she has an obligation to conceal her face: even if it seems the same in practice, the difference encompasses situations where for various reasons it can be considered superior &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; to cover the face.  Furthermore this distinction informs us that the covering of the face is not connected with the face being awrah, but is a separate obligation with its own individual conditions and evidences.  What that means is, just because the face is not part of the awrah, doesn&#039;t negate that there is obligation to cover it.
(That all cats have tails, does not mean that horses don&#039;t as well -- but that doesn&#039;t make a horse a cat.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wa alaykum as salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.</p>
<p>If you quote, quote honestly.  The article also states a mere sentence later:</p>
<p>&#8220;However, as mentioned above, the Shafi’i and Hanbali schools hold that it is from the rules of normal public decorum, affirmed by Qur’anic degree, that a woman covers her face in public.&#8221;</p>
<p>Saying the face is awrah is different from saying that she has an obligation to conceal her face: even if it seems the same in practice, the difference encompasses situations where for various reasons it can be considered superior <em>not</em> to cover the face.  Furthermore this distinction informs us that the covering of the face is not connected with the face being awrah, but is a separate obligation with its own individual conditions and evidences.  What that means is, just because the face is not part of the awrah, doesn&#8217;t negate that there is obligation to cover it.<br />
(That all cats have tails, does not mean that horses don&#8217;t as well &#8212; but that doesn&#8217;t make a horse a cat.)</p>
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		<title>By: Yousef</title>
		<link>http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/167#comment-1227</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 07:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>assalaamu alaikum

You said that showing face is sinful.    Imam Zaid Shakir writes:

&quot;The Ja’faris and Zaydis among the Shiites, and all of the Sunni schools, with the exception of a small group of Hanbalis, agree that the face of a believing woman is NOT  part of her body that is SINFUL to display publicly (‘Awra).

They argue that were that the case, she would not be enjoined to display her face during prayer, the pilgrimage or during those human interactions that demand her identification.&quot;

http://www.newislamicdirections.com/nid/articles/the_lawful_nature_of_niqab_face_veils/

whats your opinion on this ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>assalaamu alaikum</p>
<p>You said that showing face is sinful.    Imam Zaid Shakir writes:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Ja’faris and Zaydis among the Shiites, and all of the Sunni schools, with the exception of a small group of Hanbalis, agree that the face of a believing woman is NOT  part of her body that is SINFUL to display publicly (‘Awra).</p>
<p>They argue that were that the case, she would not be enjoined to display her face during prayer, the pilgrimage or during those human interactions that demand her identification.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newislamicdirections.com/nid/articles/the_lawful_nature_of_niqab_face_veils/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newislamicdirections.com/nid/articles/the_lawful_nature_of_niqab_face_veils/</a></p>
<p>whats your opinion on this ?</p>
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		<title>By: Aslam</title>
		<link>http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/167#comment-1226</link>
		<dc:creator>Aslam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalamu &#039;alaikkum wa Rahmathullah ya ikhwaan,

Great piece of research work, masha Allah. May Allah bless all who help in clarifying the Deen to the people.

I came across these hadiths which supports non-veiling. Could you please throw more light on this. Has any Shafi&#039;i scholar commented on this hadith. Jazaak Allahu khairan.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 22 Narrated Anas: The Prophet stayed for three days between Khaibar and Medina, and there he consummated his marriage to Safiyya bint Huyai. I invited the Muslims to the wedding banquet in which neither meat nor bread was offered. He ordered for leather dining-sheets to be spread, and dates, dried yoghurt and butter were laid on it, and that was the Prophet&#039;s wedding banquet. The Muslims wondered, &quot;Is she (Saffiyya) considered as his wife or his slave girl?&quot; Then they said, &quot;If he orders her to veil herself, she will be one of the mothers of the Believers; but if he does not order her to veil herself, she will be a slave girl. So when the Prophet proceeded from there, he spared her a space behind him (on his she-camel) and put a screening veil between her and the people.

and

Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 523 Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.

and

Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 65, Number 375 Narrated Anas: I know (about) the Hijab (the order of veiling of women) more than anybody else. Ubai bin Ka&#039;b used to ask me about it....&quot;

and

Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2482: Narrated Thabit ibn Qays: A woman called Umm Khallad came to the Prophet (saws) while she was veiled. She was searching for her son who had been killed (in the battle) Some of the Companions of the Prophet (saws) said to her: You have come here asking for your son while veiling your face? She said: If I am afflicted with the loss of my son, I shall not suffer the loss of my modesty. The Apostle of Allah (saws) said: You will get the reward of two martyrs for your son. She asked: Why is that so, Apostle of Allah? He replied: Because the people of the Book have killed him.

and

Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (saws) brought Fatimah a slave which he donated to her. Fatimah wore a garment which, when she covered her head, did not reach her feet, and when she covered her feet by it, that garment did not reach her head. When the Prophet (saws) saw her struggle, he said: There is no harm to you: Here is only your father and slave. Sunan Abu Dawud: Book 32, Number 4094.

All the good is from Allah and the bad is from the evil of my nafs and the eternally accursed.

Jazaakumullah khairan.

Wassalaam,
Aslam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu &#8216;alaikkum wa Rahmathullah ya ikhwaan,</p>
<p>Great piece of research work, masha Allah. May Allah bless all who help in clarifying the Deen to the people.</p>
<p>I came across these hadiths which supports non-veiling. Could you please throw more light on this. Has any Shafi&#8217;i scholar commented on this hadith. Jazaak Allahu khairan.</p>
<p>Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 22 Narrated Anas: The Prophet stayed for three days between Khaibar and Medina, and there he consummated his marriage to Safiyya bint Huyai. I invited the Muslims to the wedding banquet in which neither meat nor bread was offered. He ordered for leather dining-sheets to be spread, and dates, dried yoghurt and butter were laid on it, and that was the Prophet&#8217;s wedding banquet. The Muslims wondered, &#8220;Is she (Saffiyya) considered as his wife or his slave girl?&#8221; Then they said, &#8220;If he orders her to veil herself, she will be one of the mothers of the Believers; but if he does not order her to veil herself, she will be a slave girl. So when the Prophet proceeded from there, he spared her a space behind him (on his she-camel) and put a screening veil between her and the people.</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Sahih Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Number 523 Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil.</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 65, Number 375 Narrated Anas: I know (about) the Hijab (the order of veiling of women) more than anybody else. Ubai bin Ka&#8217;b used to ask me about it&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Sunan Abu Dawud Book 14, Number 2482: Narrated Thabit ibn Qays: A woman called Umm Khallad came to the Prophet (saws) while she was veiled. She was searching for her son who had been killed (in the battle) Some of the Companions of the Prophet (saws) said to her: You have come here asking for your son while veiling your face? She said: If I am afflicted with the loss of my son, I shall not suffer the loss of my modesty. The Apostle of Allah (saws) said: You will get the reward of two martyrs for your son. She asked: Why is that so, Apostle of Allah? He replied: Because the people of the Book have killed him.</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Narrated Anas ibn Malik: The Prophet (saws) brought Fatimah a slave which he donated to her. Fatimah wore a garment which, when she covered her head, did not reach her feet, and when she covered her feet by it, that garment did not reach her head. When the Prophet (saws) saw her struggle, he said: There is no harm to you: Here is only your father and slave. Sunan Abu Dawud: Book 32, Number 4094.</p>
<p>All the good is from Allah and the bad is from the evil of my nafs and the eternally accursed.</p>
<p>Jazaakumullah khairan.</p>
<p>Wassalaam,<br />
Aslam</p>
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		<title>By: Safiyya - Malaysia</title>
		<link>http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/167#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>Safiyya - Malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typos: WAJIB LA-DHATIHI = WAJIB LI-DHATIHI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typos: WAJIB LA-DHATIHI = WAJIB LI-DHATIHI</p>
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		<title>By: Safiyya - Malaysia</title>
		<link>http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/167#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>Safiyya - Malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam to all Muslims,
Abul Layth, I&#039;ll get back to you some time next week, Insha Allah as my hands are full right now and can hardly recall any statement of Imam Al-Bayhaqi&#039;s statement in support of the issue discussed. Please give me time to find that statement of his. Thank you. Btw, to Abdul Rahiim As-Siini, the issue about Niqab as per Shafi&#039;ie is finalised as it is evident from the verdict of Shaykhayn (Nawawi &amp; Rafi&#039;ie) - the Qawl Mu&#039;tamad - opon which the Fatwa is pronounced upon that it is WAJIB LA-DHATIHI for women to veil their faces in the presence of non-Mahram men as the face is considered &#039;Awra pertaining to Nazar (i.e. prohibited gaze) as far as free adult woman is concerned (which is clearly spelt out by Imam Nawawi in his Minhaj At-Talibin - that the face and hands being the &#039;Awra of women who have reached puberty whether or not there is likelihood of temptation) - the view of certain giants like Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami (reported to hold the view that woman&#039;s face is not &#039;Awra) may safely be dismissed as this is his personal view and many Shafi&#039;ie scholars are reported to have their personal views about many issues against the views of Shaykhayn like As-Subki, As-Suyuti, et al but when it comes to pronounce Fatwa of the School (regarding what is relied-upon), they did not issue any verdict except according the the Tarjeeh made by the Shaykhayn. Since Shaykh Khatib Shirbini has declared the opinion of Qadi Iyad as &quot;Dha&#039;eef&quot; and Shaykhul-Islam Zakariyya Al-Ansari has denounced it as &quot;Mardud&quot;, one (a Shafi&#039;ie) has no choice but to adhere to Qawl-Mu&#039;tamad rendered by the Shaykhayn regarding this issue and not to rely to other [weaker] opinions that exist within the School as this is (as Imam As-Subki said) tantamount to following one&#039;s whims and fancies and mocking the religion. Wallahu&#039;alam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam to all Muslims,<br />
Abul Layth, I&#8217;ll get back to you some time next week, Insha Allah as my hands are full right now and can hardly recall any statement of Imam Al-Bayhaqi&#8217;s statement in support of the issue discussed. Please give me time to find that statement of his. Thank you. Btw, to Abdul Rahiim As-Siini, the issue about Niqab as per Shafi&#8217;ie is finalised as it is evident from the verdict of Shaykhayn (Nawawi &amp; Rafi&#8217;ie) &#8211; the Qawl Mu&#8217;tamad &#8211; opon which the Fatwa is pronounced upon that it is WAJIB LA-DHATIHI for women to veil their faces in the presence of non-Mahram men as the face is considered &#8216;Awra pertaining to Nazar (i.e. prohibited gaze) as far as free adult woman is concerned (which is clearly spelt out by Imam Nawawi in his Minhaj At-Talibin &#8211; that the face and hands being the &#8216;Awra of women who have reached puberty whether or not there is likelihood of temptation) &#8211; the view of certain giants like Ibn Hajar Al-Haytami (reported to hold the view that woman&#8217;s face is not &#8216;Awra) may safely be dismissed as this is his personal view and many Shafi&#8217;ie scholars are reported to have their personal views about many issues against the views of Shaykhayn like As-Subki, As-Suyuti, et al but when it comes to pronounce Fatwa of the School (regarding what is relied-upon), they did not issue any verdict except according the the Tarjeeh made by the Shaykhayn. Since Shaykh Khatib Shirbini has declared the opinion of Qadi Iyad as &#8220;Dha&#8217;eef&#8221; and Shaykhul-Islam Zakariyya Al-Ansari has denounced it as &#8220;Mardud&#8221;, one (a Shafi&#8217;ie) has no choice but to adhere to Qawl-Mu&#8217;tamad rendered by the Shaykhayn regarding this issue and not to rely to other [weaker] opinions that exist within the School as this is (as Imam As-Subki said) tantamount to following one&#8217;s whims and fancies and mocking the religion. Wallahu&#8217;alam.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Layth</title>
		<link>http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/167#comment-1223</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Layth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salamu &#039;alaykum Safiyya from Malaysia,

The article claims that Imam Al-Bayhaqi (r) held this view. Though I certainly do not doubt such a view he held, considering most if not all of the major Shafi&#039;i Imams held the face to be &#039;awrah fin-nathr, I would like to see where he said it. Is it possible you could provide such?

jazakum Allahu Khayran,

Abu Layth</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salamu &#8216;alaykum Safiyya from Malaysia,</p>
<p>The article claims that Imam Al-Bayhaqi (r) held this view. Though I certainly do not doubt such a view he held, considering most if not all of the major Shafi&#8217;i Imams held the face to be &#8216;awrah fin-nathr, I would like to see where he said it. Is it possible you could provide such?</p>
<p>jazakum Allahu Khayran,</p>
<p>Abu Layth</p>
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		<title>By: Safiyya-Malaysia</title>
		<link>http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/167#comment-1222</link>
		<dc:creator>Safiyya-Malaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abdur-Rahiim As-Siini,

قال الإمام النووي في الروضة ج7/21:نظر الرجل إلى المرأة فيحرم نظره إلى عورتها مطلقا و إلى وجهها و كفيها إن خاف الفتنة و إن لم يخف فوجهان
قال أكثر الأصحاب لا سيما المتقدمون لا يحرم لقول الله(و لا يبدين زينتهن إلا ما ظهر منها)و هو مفسر بالوجه و الكفين لكن يكره قاله الشيخ أبو حامد و غيره
والثاني :يحرم قاله الإصطخري و أبو علي الطبري و اختاره الشيخ أبو محمد و الإمام و به قطع صاحب المهذب و الروياني
و وجهه الإمام بإتفاق المسلمين على منع النساء من الخروج سافرات و بأن النظر مظنة الفتنة و هو محرك الشهوة فاللائق بمحاسن الشرع سد الباب فيه و الإعراض عن تفاصيل الأحوال كالخلوة بالأجنبية أ.ه
و التحريم هو الذي صححه النووي في المنهاج حيث قال:و يحرم نظر فحل بالغ إلى عورة حرة كبيرة أجنبية و كذا وجهها و كفيها عند خوف الفتنة و كذا عند الأمن على الصحيح أ.ه
و قال الخطيب الشربيني في المغني ج3/167:و ظاهر كلام الشيخين أن الستر-أي ستر الوجه و الكفين- واجب لذاته
قلت:و عند أصحابنا إذا قالوا الشيخان يريدون بهما الرافعي و النووي كما هو معروف في مصطلحات المذهب
فإذا علمت أخي طالب العلم أن الذي أطبق عليه المحققون في المذهب أن المعتمد في المذهب ما اتفقا عليه الشيخان-يعني الرافعي و النووي-فإن إختلفا و لم يوجد لهما مرجح أو وجد لكن على السواء فالمعتمد ما قاله النووي علمت أن مذهب الشافعية الراجح فيه هو وجوب النقاب لا إستحبابه
و هذا هو الذي فهمه المتأخرون الذين تدور عليهم الفتيا في المذهب كالسبكي و الرملي و الهيتمي و الأنصاري و الشربيني
قال السبكي كما هو في مغني المحتاج :إن الأقرب إلى صنع الأصحاب أن وجهها و كفيها عورة في النظر لا في الصلاة و إطلاقه الكبيرة يشمل العجوز التي لا تشتهى و هو الأرجح في الشرح الصغير و هو المعتمد لأن لكل ساقطة لاقطة
و قال الشيخ زكريا الأنصاري في فتح الوهاب ج2/55:و ما ذكرته من تحريم نظر الفحل إلى وجه المرأة و كفيها و عكسه عند أمن الفتنة هو ما صححه صاحب الأصل و الذي في الروضة كأصلها عند أكثر الأصحاب حله أ.ه
و قال الخطيب الشربيني في الإقناع في حل ألفاظ أبي شجاع ج1/124:و يكره أن يصلي الرجل متلثما و المرأة منتقبة إلا أن تكون في مكان و هناك أجانب لا يحترزون عن النظر إليها فلا يجوز لها رفع النقاب أ.ه
و ثم مسألة أخرى لم يتعرض لها-في المذهب من المتقدمين- إلا الخطيب وهي-المغني/ج3/167- هل يحرم النظر إلى المنتقبة التي لا يتبين منها غير عينيها و محاجرها أو لا؟
قال الأذرعي لم أر فيه نصا و الظاهر أنه لا فرق لاسيما إذا كانت جميلة فكم من المحاجر من خناجر أ.ه
و قال الشيخ زكريا الأنصاري في أَسْنَى المطالب
( قَوْلُهُ نَظَرُ الْوَجْهِ وَالْكَفَّيْنِ إلَخْ ) قَالَ  الْمَاوَرْدِيُّ عَوْرَتُهَا مَعَ غَيْرِ الزَّوْجِ كُبْرَى وَصُغْرَى فَالْكُبْرَى مَا عَدَا الْوَجْهِ وَالْكَفَّيْنِ وَالصُّغْرَى مَا بَيْنَ السُّرَّةِ وَالرُّكْبَةِ فَيَجِبُ سَتْرُ الْكُبْرَى فِي الصَّلَاةِ وَكَذَا عَنْ الرِّجَالِ الْأَجَانِبِ وَالْخَنَاثَى وَالصُّغْرَى عَنْ النِّسَاءِ وَإِنْ قَرُبْنَ وَكَذَا عَنْ رِجَالِ الْمَحَارِمِ وَالصِّبْيَانِ وَهَلْ عَوْرَتُهَا مَعَ الشَّيْخِ الْهَرِمِ وَالْمَجْبُوبِ الصُّغْرَى أَوْ الْكُبْرَى  وَجْهَانِ  قَالَ  شَيْخُنَا  أَصَحُّهُمَا  ثَانِيهِمَا مَعَ زِيَادَةِ الْوَجْهِ وَالْكَفَّيْنِ عَلَى مَا فِي  الْمِنْهَاجِ  ( قَوْلُهُ مِنْ الْمَرْأَةِ إلَى الرَّجُلِ إلَخْ ) الْمُرَاهِقَةُ  كَالْمُرَاهِقِ  فِي حُكْمِهِ الْآتِي ( قَوْلُهُ وَاَلَّذِي صَحَّحَهُ فِي  الْمِنْهَاجِ  كَأَصْلِهِ التَّحْرِيمُ ) أَشَارَ إلَى تَصْحِيحِهِ ( قَوْلُهُ وَوَجَّهَهُ  الْإِمَامُ  بِاتِّفَاقِ الْمُسْلِمِينَ إلَخْ ) نُقِلَ فِي  الرَّوْضَةِ  وَأَصْلِهَا هَذَا الِاتِّفَاقَ وَأَقْرَأَهُ وَعَلَّلَ بِهِ فِي  الشَّرْحِ الصَّغِيرِ  وَهُوَ  الْمُعْتَمَدُ  وَكَلَامُ  الْقَاضِي عِيَاضٍ  مَرْدُودٌ بِأَشْيَاءَ مِنْهَا قَوْلُ الْأَصْحَابِ مَعْنَى كَوْنِ الْمُرَاهِقِ  كَالْبَالِغِ أَنَّهُ يَلْزَمُ الْمَنْظُورَ إلَيْهَا الِاحْتِجَابُ مِنْهُ كَمَا يَلْزَمُهَا الِاحْتِجَابُ مِنْ الْمَجْنُونِ قَطْعًا وَقَوْلُهُمْ يَحْرُمُ عَلَى الْمُسْلِمَةِ كَشْفُ مَا لَا يَبْدُو مِنْهَا عِنْدَ الْمِهْنَةِ لِلْكَافِرَةِ وَفَتْوَى  النَّوَوِيِّ  بِأَنَّهُ يَحْرُمُ عَلَى الْمُسْلِمَةِ كَشْفُ وَجْهِهَا لَهَا عَلَى أَنَّ بَعْضَهُمْ نَقَلَ أَنَّ  الْقَاضِيَ  إنَّمَا نَقَلَهُ عَنْ أَكْثَرِ الْعُلَمَاءِ وَعَلَيْهِ فَلَا مُخَالَفَةَ ( قَوْلُهُ قَالَ  الْبُلْقِينِيُّ  التَّرْجِيحُ بِقُوَّةِ الْمُدْرِكِ إلَخْ ) قَالَ  شَيْخُنَا  مُرَادُهُ بِذَلِكَ أَنَّ الْمُدْرِكَ مَعَ مَا فِي  الْمِنْهَاجِ  كَمَا أَنَّ الْفَتْوَى عَلَيْهِ ( قَوْلُهُ وَالْفَتْوَى عَلَى مَا فِي  الْمِنْهَاجِ  ) قَالَ فِي التَّوَسُّطِ بَلْ الظَّاهِرُ أَنَّهُ اخْتِيَارُ الْجُمْهُورِ ا هـ وَجَزَمَ بِهِ فِي  التَّدْرِيبِ  وَقُوَّةُ كَلَامِ الصَّغِيرِ تَقْتَضِي رَجْحَتَهُ , وَقَالَ  ابْنُ عَبْدِ السَّلَامِ  لَوْ  كَانَ  لِرَجُلٍ  امْرَأَةٌ  تَنْظُرُ  مِنْ طَاقٍ فِي غُرْفَةٍ أَوْ غَيْرِهَا إلَى  الْأَجَانِبِ  أَوْ  يَنْظُرُونَ  إلَيْهَا مِنْهَا  وَجَبَ عَلَيْهِ بِنَاءُ الطَّاقِ أَوْ سَدُّهَا قَالَ  الْأَذْرَعِيُّ هَلْ يَحْرُمُ النَّظَرُ إلَى الْمُنَقَّبَةِ الَّتِي لَا يَبِينُ مِنْهَا إلَّا عَيْنَاهَا وَمَحَاجِرُهَا لَمْ أَرَ فِيهِ نَصًّا وَالظَّاهِرُ أَنَّهُ لَا فَرْقَ وَلَا سِيَّمَا إذَا كَانَتْ جَمِيلَةً فَكَمْ فِي الْمَحَاجِرِ مِنْ حَنَاجِرَ ( قَوْلُهُ فَلَيْسَ فِيهِ أَنَّهَا نَظَرَتْ إلَى وُجُوهِهِمْ إلَخْ ) أَوْ أَنَّ ذَلِكَ لَعَلَّهُ كَانَ قَبْلَ نُزُولِ الْحِجَابِ أَوْ كَانَتْ  عَائِشَةُ  لَمْ تَبْلُغْ مَبْلَغَ النِّسَاءِ إذْ ذَاكَ

فعليك أخي بها فقد نص المحققون في المذهب على أنه ما لم يتعرض له النووي و الرافعي و الرملي و الهيتمي و زكريا الأنصاري يؤخذ بكلام الشربيني-عليهم جميعا رحمة الله-د
الخاتمة:
بعد هذا العرض السابق أخي تعلم أن الصحيح عند الشافعية وجوب ستر الوجه و الكفين لا ندبهما</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abdur-Rahiim As-Siini,</p>
<p>قال الإمام النووي في الروضة ج7/21:نظر الرجل إلى المرأة فيحرم نظره إلى عورتها مطلقا و إلى وجهها و كفيها إن خاف الفتنة و إن لم يخف فوجهان<br />
قال أكثر الأصحاب لا سيما المتقدمون لا يحرم لقول الله(و لا يبدين زينتهن إلا ما ظهر منها)و هو مفسر بالوجه و الكفين لكن يكره قاله الشيخ أبو حامد و غيره<br />
والثاني :يحرم قاله الإصطخري و أبو علي الطبري و اختاره الشيخ أبو محمد و الإمام و به قطع صاحب المهذب و الروياني<br />
و وجهه الإمام بإتفاق المسلمين على منع النساء من الخروج سافرات و بأن النظر مظنة الفتنة و هو محرك الشهوة فاللائق بمحاسن الشرع سد الباب فيه و الإعراض عن تفاصيل الأحوال كالخلوة بالأجنبية أ.ه<br />
و التحريم هو الذي صححه النووي في المنهاج حيث قال:و يحرم نظر فحل بالغ إلى عورة حرة كبيرة أجنبية و كذا وجهها و كفيها عند خوف الفتنة و كذا عند الأمن على الصحيح أ.ه<br />
و قال الخطيب الشربيني في المغني ج3/167:و ظاهر كلام الشيخين أن الستر-أي ستر الوجه و الكفين- واجب لذاته<br />
قلت:و عند أصحابنا إذا قالوا الشيخان يريدون بهما الرافعي و النووي كما هو معروف في مصطلحات المذهب<br />
فإذا علمت أخي طالب العلم أن الذي أطبق عليه المحققون في المذهب أن المعتمد في المذهب ما اتفقا عليه الشيخان-يعني الرافعي و النووي-فإن إختلفا و لم يوجد لهما مرجح أو وجد لكن على السواء فالمعتمد ما قاله النووي علمت أن مذهب الشافعية الراجح فيه هو وجوب النقاب لا إستحبابه<br />
و هذا هو الذي فهمه المتأخرون الذين تدور عليهم الفتيا في المذهب كالسبكي و الرملي و الهيتمي و الأنصاري و الشربيني<br />
قال السبكي كما هو في مغني المحتاج :إن الأقرب إلى صنع الأصحاب أن وجهها و كفيها عورة في النظر لا في الصلاة و إطلاقه الكبيرة يشمل العجوز التي لا تشتهى و هو الأرجح في الشرح الصغير و هو المعتمد لأن لكل ساقطة لاقطة<br />
و قال الشيخ زكريا الأنصاري في فتح الوهاب ج2/55:و ما ذكرته من تحريم نظر الفحل إلى وجه المرأة و كفيها و عكسه عند أمن الفتنة هو ما صححه صاحب الأصل و الذي في الروضة كأصلها عند أكثر الأصحاب حله أ.ه<br />
و قال الخطيب الشربيني في الإقناع في حل ألفاظ أبي شجاع ج1/124:و يكره أن يصلي الرجل متلثما و المرأة منتقبة إلا أن تكون في مكان و هناك أجانب لا يحترزون عن النظر إليها فلا يجوز لها رفع النقاب أ.ه<br />
و ثم مسألة أخرى لم يتعرض لها-في المذهب من المتقدمين- إلا الخطيب وهي-المغني/ج3/167- هل يحرم النظر إلى المنتقبة التي لا يتبين منها غير عينيها و محاجرها أو لا؟<br />
قال الأذرعي لم أر فيه نصا و الظاهر أنه لا فرق لاسيما إذا كانت جميلة فكم من المحاجر من خناجر أ.ه<br />
و قال الشيخ زكريا الأنصاري في أَسْنَى المطالب<br />
( قَوْلُهُ نَظَرُ الْوَجْهِ وَالْكَفَّيْنِ إلَخْ ) قَالَ  الْمَاوَرْدِيُّ عَوْرَتُهَا مَعَ غَيْرِ الزَّوْجِ كُبْرَى وَصُغْرَى فَالْكُبْرَى مَا عَدَا الْوَجْهِ وَالْكَفَّيْنِ وَالصُّغْرَى مَا بَيْنَ السُّرَّةِ وَالرُّكْبَةِ فَيَجِبُ سَتْرُ الْكُبْرَى فِي الصَّلَاةِ وَكَذَا عَنْ الرِّجَالِ الْأَجَانِبِ وَالْخَنَاثَى وَالصُّغْرَى عَنْ النِّسَاءِ وَإِنْ قَرُبْنَ وَكَذَا عَنْ رِجَالِ الْمَحَارِمِ وَالصِّبْيَانِ وَهَلْ عَوْرَتُهَا مَعَ الشَّيْخِ الْهَرِمِ وَالْمَجْبُوبِ الصُّغْرَى أَوْ الْكُبْرَى  وَجْهَانِ  قَالَ  شَيْخُنَا  أَصَحُّهُمَا  ثَانِيهِمَا مَعَ زِيَادَةِ الْوَجْهِ وَالْكَفَّيْنِ عَلَى مَا فِي  الْمِنْهَاجِ  ( قَوْلُهُ مِنْ الْمَرْأَةِ إلَى الرَّجُلِ إلَخْ ) الْمُرَاهِقَةُ  كَالْمُرَاهِقِ  فِي حُكْمِهِ الْآتِي ( قَوْلُهُ وَاَلَّذِي صَحَّحَهُ فِي  الْمِنْهَاجِ  كَأَصْلِهِ التَّحْرِيمُ ) أَشَارَ إلَى تَصْحِيحِهِ ( قَوْلُهُ وَوَجَّهَهُ  الْإِمَامُ  بِاتِّفَاقِ الْمُسْلِمِينَ إلَخْ ) نُقِلَ فِي  الرَّوْضَةِ  وَأَصْلِهَا هَذَا الِاتِّفَاقَ وَأَقْرَأَهُ وَعَلَّلَ بِهِ فِي  الشَّرْحِ الصَّغِيرِ  وَهُوَ  الْمُعْتَمَدُ  وَكَلَامُ  الْقَاضِي عِيَاضٍ  مَرْدُودٌ بِأَشْيَاءَ مِنْهَا قَوْلُ الْأَصْحَابِ مَعْنَى كَوْنِ الْمُرَاهِقِ  كَالْبَالِغِ أَنَّهُ يَلْزَمُ الْمَنْظُورَ إلَيْهَا الِاحْتِجَابُ مِنْهُ كَمَا يَلْزَمُهَا الِاحْتِجَابُ مِنْ الْمَجْنُونِ قَطْعًا وَقَوْلُهُمْ يَحْرُمُ عَلَى الْمُسْلِمَةِ كَشْفُ مَا لَا يَبْدُو مِنْهَا عِنْدَ الْمِهْنَةِ لِلْكَافِرَةِ وَفَتْوَى  النَّوَوِيِّ  بِأَنَّهُ يَحْرُمُ عَلَى الْمُسْلِمَةِ كَشْفُ وَجْهِهَا لَهَا عَلَى أَنَّ بَعْضَهُمْ نَقَلَ أَنَّ  الْقَاضِيَ  إنَّمَا نَقَلَهُ عَنْ أَكْثَرِ الْعُلَمَاءِ وَعَلَيْهِ فَلَا مُخَالَفَةَ ( قَوْلُهُ قَالَ  الْبُلْقِينِيُّ  التَّرْجِيحُ بِقُوَّةِ الْمُدْرِكِ إلَخْ ) قَالَ  شَيْخُنَا  مُرَادُهُ بِذَلِكَ أَنَّ الْمُدْرِكَ مَعَ مَا فِي  الْمِنْهَاجِ  كَمَا أَنَّ الْفَتْوَى عَلَيْهِ ( قَوْلُهُ وَالْفَتْوَى عَلَى مَا فِي  الْمِنْهَاجِ  ) قَالَ فِي التَّوَسُّطِ بَلْ الظَّاهِرُ أَنَّهُ اخْتِيَارُ الْجُمْهُورِ ا هـ وَجَزَمَ بِهِ فِي  التَّدْرِيبِ  وَقُوَّةُ كَلَامِ الصَّغِيرِ تَقْتَضِي رَجْحَتَهُ , وَقَالَ  ابْنُ عَبْدِ السَّلَامِ  لَوْ  كَانَ  لِرَجُلٍ  امْرَأَةٌ  تَنْظُرُ  مِنْ طَاقٍ فِي غُرْفَةٍ أَوْ غَيْرِهَا إلَى  الْأَجَانِبِ  أَوْ  يَنْظُرُونَ  إلَيْهَا مِنْهَا  وَجَبَ عَلَيْهِ بِنَاءُ الطَّاقِ أَوْ سَدُّهَا قَالَ  الْأَذْرَعِيُّ هَلْ يَحْرُمُ النَّظَرُ إلَى الْمُنَقَّبَةِ الَّتِي لَا يَبِينُ مِنْهَا إلَّا عَيْنَاهَا وَمَحَاجِرُهَا لَمْ أَرَ فِيهِ نَصًّا وَالظَّاهِرُ أَنَّهُ لَا فَرْقَ وَلَا سِيَّمَا إذَا كَانَتْ جَمِيلَةً فَكَمْ فِي الْمَحَاجِرِ مِنْ حَنَاجِرَ ( قَوْلُهُ فَلَيْسَ فِيهِ أَنَّهَا نَظَرَتْ إلَى وُجُوهِهِمْ إلَخْ ) أَوْ أَنَّ ذَلِكَ لَعَلَّهُ كَانَ قَبْلَ نُزُولِ الْحِجَابِ أَوْ كَانَتْ  عَائِشَةُ  لَمْ تَبْلُغْ مَبْلَغَ النِّسَاءِ إذْ ذَاكَ</p>
<p>فعليك أخي بها فقد نص المحققون في المذهب على أنه ما لم يتعرض له النووي و الرافعي و الرملي و الهيتمي و زكريا الأنصاري يؤخذ بكلام الشربيني-عليهم جميعا رحمة الله-د<br />
الخاتمة:<br />
بعد هذا العرض السابق أخي تعلم أن الصحيح عند الشافعية وجوب ستر الوجه و الكفين لا ندبهما</p>
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		<title>By: Abul Layth</title>
		<link>http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/167#comment-1221</link>
		<dc:creator>Abul Layth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, as  the fard/wajib is a command from Allah or His Messenger, that if not done, results in sayyi&#039;at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, as  the fard/wajib is a command from Allah or His Messenger, that if not done, results in sayyi&#8217;at.</p>
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		<title>By: question</title>
		<link>http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/167#comment-1220</link>
		<dc:creator>question</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jazakallah khayr, I&#039;m shafi&#039;i and so if I do not cover my face, then am I sinning according to the shafi scholars?</description>
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