Comments on: Shafi'i Fiqh: The Proofs that Touching A Woman Breaks Wudhu'

By: Rafael

Rafael — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:57:03 +0000

I made Hajj with a reliable scholar of the Shafi'i maddhab who informed me that he was following a ruling in the Shafi'i madhhab that it is only the person who does the touching that has his wudu broken to overcome the hustle and bustle of Hajj and tawaf. PS: "...if could advice me..." should be advise me, not advice. Advice is a noun, 'to advise' is a verb.

By: Abul Layth

Abul Layth — Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:14:10 +0000

btw there is a more updated version of this article in research form at http://www.shafiifiqh.com/?p=23

By: Abul Layth

Abul Layth — Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:07:52 +0000

To be Sunni is to be a madhhabist Hasanah. All of the Muslims of ahlus sunnah follow a madh-hab, even many of the mujtahid Imams such as suyuti, taqi as-subki, as well as the first generation students of teh Imams themselves.

By: Shabuddin Shaikh

Shabuddin Shaikh — Fri, 18 Jun 2010 05:32:12 +0000

Assalamualaikum wa rahamatullahi wa barakatuhu, I am following Shafi’i madhab. Yesterday I had a word with a friend. He said that he heard Bilal Philips saying that “In Shafi’i madhab, touching opposite sex breaks wudu”. Further Bilal Philips says that he spoke to some Shafi’i people as to what they do in Hajj and they replied that “while in Hajj we follow hanafi madhab”. Then Bilal Philips told that “this is ignorance”.

I was very upset with this. Please let me know what is the ruling of Hajj.

Above brother Abul Layth has advised “Lastly, you should leave the issue of touching the opposite gender in Hajj up to the Shafi’i jurists and their massive Sunni Following around the world, not up to what you think their ruling is – while not having studied the madh-hab first hand”.

I would be obliged if you could advice me … some advice about the hajj ruling that I could understand.

I read somewhere that there are some rulings that are relaxed during Hajj. for example: during Hajj, it is fine if a person crosses in front of a person who is praying while in other places it is not allowed. Is our ruling regarding “touch not breaking the wuzu during Hajj” also relaxed only for Hajj?

By: Hasan

Hasan — Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:29:53 +0000

Assalamu Alaikum

You speak of “blind following” and following a maddhab (“maddhabist”) as a bad thing, even though all our a’immah were muqallids, unless they could do independent ijtihad!

By: Hasanah

Hasanah — Sat, 12 Jun 2010 05:17:59 +0000

Okay I was reading the comments and it was all good until I read brother Hasan’s comments. Do not be a blind follower. You are being madh’habist. You are saying that this person and that person cannot be objective because they are shafi’i and then you go on to put down the madh’hab and talk about how you are hanafi. Subhan Allah ! This is the kind of attitude that led to salah behind an imam from your madh’hab only being implemented even in Makkah and not being able to marry someone from another madh’hab for 100s of years.

If you do not agree with the opinions then just be quiet and stick with your madh’hab. There is nothing wrong with imam shafi’is opinion. they are all mujtahids striving for the correct answer and to follow the sunnah of RasulAllah. In fact shafi’i studied under abu yusoof, one of abu hanifa’s major students. So he took the knowledge of abu hanifa, malik, al-layth, zayd and his own and applied them with his own usool.

Just relax peeps.

By: Abu Layth

Abu Layth — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:57:39 +0000

That is baseless and ridiculous assumption! The ‘Ulama’ from Thailand, Indonesia, South Africa, Egypt and even Syria and Jordan such as Shaykh Nuh Salman all believe that the Shafi’i view is stronger.

was-Salam,
Abu Layth

By: abu imaani

abu imaani — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:02:32 +0000

my teacher told me that the modern day ulema of our school have found the hanafi ruling to be more sound. he studied at abu noor in syria and at daar al mustafa. anybody have any info?

By: Hussein

Hussein — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:21:41 +0000

regarding the statement
B) The authentic narrations thereof, such as ‘Ā’ishah saying that the Nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa ‘alā Ālihi wa sallam) touched her leg while He was making Salāh, then regarding these they say this narration is abrogated by the verse of the Qur’an. Ibn Hajr, in his Fat-hul-Bārī, brings two other arguments: a) That the Nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa ‘alā Ālihi wa sallam) touched her with a barrier, and if that is not the case b) it is specific for the Nabi (sallallahu ‘alayhi wa ‘alā Ālihi wa sallam). The first opinion definitely seems stronger. And Allah Knows Best.

do you know where i can get the link for ibn hajar fath bari quote for the exact quote above.

By: Abul Layth

Abul Layth — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:03:27 +0000

A response Rand:

http://seekingilm.com/archives/580